In response to Always right's message:

RE: Do you see the pattern?
Maybe you own stocks in big oil? Look what happened in California with Enron. My motto is.... trust no one or nobody when it comes to money.You must not have heard about the closed doors meetings Cheney had with the energy companies when him and Bush took office?? Were feeling the results of them meetings right now.If you don't believe me Google it ( Cheney's closed doors meetings with energy companies)

In response to Arcane's message:

RE: Do you see the pattern?
There is a problem with your conspiracy theory... I would have believed it if I weren't aware of oil companies through stock investing. Honey, all of our country's oil fields aren't run by the big oil conglomerates but instead are controlled by thousands of tiny oil businesses and oil trusts that own a few oil fields and pump them for income. You can buy shares in some of the larger ones and they pay a nice dividend. I can guarantee you they don't have the foresight or the ability to conspire to pump oil out of their fields slowly. Especially since they want to pump them as fast as possible to sell at today's high prices.
Actually, the opposite is true. Oil fields that were shuttered for decades (because they're expensive to operate or have a lower quality crude) have been reopened. I heard rumors they may even reopen the drills in Oil City, PA soon if they believe the price will stay at this rate for the long term.
No, what you utter is a mere conspiracy theory easily disproved if you search the internet and learn more about our country's oil infrastructure.
A group did conspire a month ago to raise gasoline by about a $1.50 per gallon more, and to raise all kinds of energy price hikes on our remaining factories. They were the United States Congress, but the Republicans (who are out numbered now) stopped it in the senate. If you didn't need 60 votes in the Senate, it would have become law and gasoline would be about $5.50 a gallon.
Where would that $1.50 a gallon go? To Carbon Credit traders, one of which Al Gore has a controlling interest in.
Congress feels our pain at the pump, they tried to raise the price of heating fuel and gasoline even more!

In response to Always right's message:

RE: Do you see the pattern?
I heard that the American oil companies that have wells in the United States aren't pumping as much as they can,why should they when they can manipulate prices with supply and demand? Maybe all this was planned with Cheney's had closed doors meetings with the oil companies? Someday we'll find out how much a bunch crooks Bush and Cheney were.

In response to NotaGWBfan's message:

RE: Do you see the pattern?
Sorry for the delay in the reply. Yes GWB, and Richard "The Chicken Hearted" Cheney can, and would manipulate oil prices. Remember Enron and GWB's good friend Ken Lay. GWB called him "Kenny Boy". Till the Enron fiasco he was set to become the Energy Secretary under GWB. Enron was manipulating energy prices in California. Remember also Lay met with Cheney secretly 6 times to craft the Bush "secret energy policy". Could that policy be to get the price of gas over $4.00 a gallon and the American public will then clamor for us to drill in Alaska. Should mention back in 2002, was not Congress in control of the Republicans? From what I read 8, yes 8, republicans voted against it! Why did GWB's brother, Jeb, not want offshore drilling on Florida's coast? And Schwarzenegger, a great Republican, also not want drilling off his coast? IMHO, GWB has 666 tattooed on his body!

In response to NotaGWBfan's message:

RE: Do you see the pattern?
Sorry for the delay in the reply. Yes GWB, and Richard "The Chicken Hearted" Cheney can, and would manipulate oil prices. Remember Enron and GWB's good friend Ken Lay. GWB called him "Kenny Boy". Till the Enron fiasco he was set to become the Energy Secretary under GWB. Enron was manipulating energy prices in California. Remember also Lay met with Cheney secretly 6 times to craft the Bush "secret energy policy". Could that policy be to get the price of gas over $4.00 a gallon and the American public will then clamor for us to drill in Alaska. Should mention back in 2002, was not Congress in control of the Republicans? From what I read 8, yes 8, republicans voted against it! Why did GWB's brother, Jeb, not want offshore drilling on Florida's coast? And Schwarzenegger, a great Republican, also not want drilling off his coast? IMHO, GWB has 666 tattooed on his body!

In response to Realist's message:

RE: Do you see the pattern?
If your Democrats that blocked opening up drilling in ANWR (a WASTELAND of nothing but moss lichen and summer time mosquitos) back in 2002 when he requested it, we'd be paying roughly 2.50 for gasoline right now. Europe is paying over $11 for gasoline, is Bush really that powerful that he can wave his magic wand and raise oil prices around the world? The price of a barrel of oil is set by commodity traders in London and sets the price for the whole world. It's really a simple system that's gotten a lot of press lately...
The commodities are traded with numerous factors but largely the price is dictated by future demand being met by anticipated supply. If more oil than demand is expected to hit the market soon, prices fall. If the oil supply risks shortfalls (war, hurricanes, political turmoil overseas), the price of oil rises. Let me explain to you how this all works since you don't live in reality with your Harrisburg public servant job.
Here is how the Oil Trading Market works (and all commodities for that matter):
Say you're an airline and you know that you'll need oil (jet fuel) next year, but you need to have certainty for its cost so you can begin pricing airline tickets. You can buy this certainty from an oil trader, let's assume for $4.50 a gallon. Both parties are taking a risk in the transaction. The oil seller is betting that oil will cost no more than $4.50 next year, if it costs more than that then he will be selling at a loss. The Airline, in exchange for buying this certainty, is risking paying more for oil if the price of oil should fall.
This is the vital role of the commodity trading markets. For the past 7 years, oil has been trading higher because the traders tally all of the elements that will affect the price of oil in the future. Some things that will effect the price of oil:
- Existing American oil fields are drying up, oil production has been falling.
- China's importing more oil each year. Just 10 or 15 years ago, China was an OIL Exporter! Now they're just behind us in the amount of oil they import each year.
- Nigeria civil war a possibility. They're one of our largest sources of oil, and the Nigerian oil is a good quality of crude that is easy to turn into gasoline.
- You name it. Hurricanes, tanker disruptions, etc. A storm half way across the world effects the price of gasoline.
In short, Bush did his best to increase energy production but the Democrats stopped him in the senate where 60 votes are required (Republicans never had 60 votes in senate). You can't blame Bush for the 4 dollar a gallon gasoline! You do so being ignorant of reality, perhaps willfully.
We haven't been attacked by Islamic Extremists since 9/11. Bush believed going into Iraq was the way to ensure our homeland would be free from another 9/11. Perhaps he was right?

In response to former SS student's message:

RE: Ok so now what is the next step
How would I feel if Gibson Terrace kids went to SS? I'd be fine with it. I went to SS as a child, very possibly went to school with Gibson Terrace kids, and would not have a problem if they went to SS now. You act like SS students are some fine group of students that parents don't want mixed with SS students. Why would I feel it is any more fair to mix Gibson Terrace kids with the other kids at Zach. This whole argument is ridiculous. Again, if YOU have a problem with a decision the SCHOOL BOARD made, then take it up with them. You aren't going to get anywhere complaining about it on here. Speak up. We did, and us "spoiled brat cry babies" got what we wanted right? For now that is.

In response to I don't understand's message:

RE: Ok so now what is the next step
Its been this way for years, correct? So I don't understand why people are taking it out on parents that chose to stand up for ALL children, not just because they were closing schools, but reconfiguring grades. These 40 parents NEVER had a say about where Gibson Terrace kids go to school. GO TO THE SCHOOL BOARD about this issue if you honestly have one. That is what the 40 parents did, we didn't sit back and whine about it.

In response to How?'s message:

RE: Ok so now what is the next step
How would you feel if Gibson Terrace kids go to South Side? Would that be ok? They used to go to SS. Why are they being discriminated against? We need to to integrate them back into SS. Live south of Patterson Ave to Arch St you go to Zach. Live north of Patterson Ave to Arch St you go to Zach. When that happens and the lawsuit people of SS embrace these wonderful children then I will believe that the SS lawsuit parents did it for ALL the kids and not just their kids.

In response to Curious's message:

RE: Ok so now what is the next step
"Why do their parents want them to go to South Side School so bad rather than Zach?" I don't know, maybe because they too believe in the concept of a neighborhood school? That they would rather have their small children go to the closest school rather than ride a bus?That they resent being made pawns by the school board-who knows what type of "backroom deals" were made to keep South Side School open-but just for certain children? Do you really not understand why?

In response to SOme's message:

RE: Ok so now what is the next step
You should go to the school that is closest to you; in this case closer. Gibson Terrace children live closer to South Side Elementary School than some of the children that go to South Side Elementary School. Maybe that's why?

In response to First Amendment's message:

RE: Problem with Dangerous Person Solved
Nothing will be confiscated. Teach your pesky cat to read so he can understand the no tresspassing signs and there will not be a problem. All kidding aside. People just being a little responsible for their pets would solve the whole problem. How much do dog licenses reduce stray dogs? Cat licenses are just another expense for taxpayers that will end up in some politicians, or their friends or relatives, pocketbook. My pesky cat took the Evelyn Woodhead Sped reddin course and can understand the signs so i am not worried. License? We dont need no stinking license.

In response to lawsuit parents's message:

RE: Ok so now what is the next step
are NOT responsible for where the Gibson Terrace kids go. In fact, there are only a FEW parents in this group that have children at South Side. Seems to me, this is something you need to discuss with the school board, or whoever was responsible for sending them to Zach in the first place! Until the day when the school board says they are sending them to SS, and the SS parents speak against it, then it is not fair to say these parents don't care about all kids!

In response to ***'s message:

RE: Do you see the pattern?
it got him MORE than that! hehehe

In response to My post does not's message:

RE: Ok so now what is the next step
scream that. I know how I feel and I know I have a long way to go until my child is in seventh grade, and I also know that when my child goes to seventh grade, there are still plenty of my friends and family who will have children in lower grades, and I will fight it then as I have now. Do not make accusations. I know what I beleive. You perhaps are selfish, I am not.

In response to Time's message:

RE: Ok so now what is the next step
Maybe a year would be enough time. They could do it next year then - right?

In response to same ol same ol's message:

RE: Ok so now what is the next step
Then the next group of board members will try something different. I say it needs to take as long as it needs to take to do what is best for everyone involved. As long as my kid is in 7th grade then I am fine with schools closing. I ADDED THE LAST SENTENCE TO SOME OF YOUR POST. YOUR POST SCREAMS THAT LAST SENTENCE.

In response to Also's message:

RE: Ok so now what is the next step
The Gibson Terrace children should go to South Side School. They did in the past. They live closer to SS then alot of the kids that go there. In fact, there are children that live just on the river side of Pittsburgh St that are made to go toe Zach school. They should go to SS. I say anyone north of Patterson Ave (the whole way to Arch St) should go to Zach. Anyone south of New Myer Ave (the whole way to Arch St) goes to SS including the Gibson Terrace. When theses children are welcomed into the fold then I will believe that the South Side group are really interested in doing what is in the best interest of ALL children and not just their children. Will they welcome them? If not then they are segregating them. I don't believe in discrimination or prejustice and I know the Gibson Terrace children belong at SS.

In response to old phart's message:

RE: Ok so now what is the next step
I think they should open the old Casparis school and anyone south of Tim-buck-two goes where ever they want to. North end goes to South side and south side goes to....Casparis Tech!

In response to Also's message:

RE: Ok so now what is the next step
The Gibson Terrace children should go to South Side School. They did in the past. They live closer to SS then alot of the kids that go there. In fact, there are children that live just on the river side of Pittsburgh St that are made to go toe Zach school. They should go to SS. I say anyone north of Patterson Ave (the whole way to Arch St) should go to Zach. Anyone south of New Myer Ave (the whole way to Arch St) goes to SS including the Gibson Terrace. When theses children are welcomed into the fold then I will believe that the South Side group are really interested in doing what is in the best interest of ALL children and not just their children. Will they welcome them? If not then they are segregating them. I don't believe in discrimination or prejustice and I know the Gibson Terrace children belong at SS.